Comments on: My Thoughts and a Summary of Leopard http://www.connerdowney.com/2007/06/12/my-thoughts-and-a-summary-of-leopard/ Just another great WordPress Weblog Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:28:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: shadownight http://www.connerdowney.com/2007/06/12/my-thoughts-and-a-summary-of-leopard/#comment-153 shadownight Mon, 25 Jun 2007 02:01:41 +0000 http://www.connerdowney.com/2007/06/12/my-thoughts-and-a-summary-of-leopard/#comment-153 Just wanted to add that I don't think there's a problem with Apple creating features similar to those of existing third-party apps. The problem with 3rd-party apps is that you need to update, manage, and, in some cases, pay for them. Plus, they can never be as integrated into the OS as an Apple solution, not to mention they're often not as complete or elegant as Apple solutions. As for your specific examples, Stacks does so much more than OverFlow and Todos, and virtual desktops aren't exclusive to VirtueDesktops. Tabbed chats aren't an incredible innovation (Adium's had them for a while). That said, I liked your post, I just wanted to chime in on this particular issue, as it kind of annoys me ;) Just wanted to add that I don’t think there’s a problem with Apple creating features similar to those of existing third-party apps. The problem with 3rd-party apps is that you need to update, manage, and, in some cases, pay for them. Plus, they can never be as integrated into the OS as an Apple solution, not to mention they’re often not as complete or elegant as Apple solutions.

As for your specific examples, Stacks does so much more than OverFlow and Todos, and virtual desktops aren’t exclusive to VirtueDesktops. Tabbed chats aren’t an incredible innovation (Adium’s had them for a while).

That said, I liked your post, I just wanted to chime in on this particular issue, as it kind of annoys me ;)

]]> By: Daniel http://www.connerdowney.com/2007/06/12/my-thoughts-and-a-summary-of-leopard/#comment-132 Daniel Thu, 14 Jun 2007 04:48:29 +0000 http://www.connerdowney.com/2007/06/12/my-thoughts-and-a-summary-of-leopard/#comment-132 Hey Conner. It was fun talking to you in the IRC the other night for wwdc. Chris showed me your website and thought I'd check it out. I like it and you did a pretty good review on leapord. I pretty much agree with it all. I actually liked this blog host so much I got my own. Check it out if you want. http://www.DanielJoel.com Hey Conner. It was fun talking to you in the IRC the other night for wwdc. Chris showed me your website and thought I’d check it out. I like it and you did a pretty good review on leapord. I pretty much agree with it all.

I actually liked this blog host so much I got my own. Check it out if you want.

http://www.DanielJoel.com

]]> By: me http://www.connerdowney.com/2007/06/12/my-thoughts-and-a-summary-of-leopard/#comment-131 me Wed, 13 Jun 2007 04:03:09 +0000 http://www.connerdowney.com/2007/06/12/my-thoughts-and-a-summary-of-leopard/#comment-131 The finder is completely redone you retard. Stacks have been been patented for years. You can turn off the transparency. The finder is completely redone you retard.

Stacks have been been patented for years.

You can turn off the transparency.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.connerdowney.com/2007/06/12/my-thoughts-and-a-summary-of-leopard/#comment-130 Andrew Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:38:11 +0000 http://www.connerdowney.com/2007/06/12/my-thoughts-and-a-summary-of-leopard/#comment-130 I agree with the ugly new menu bar and dock. I think transparency should never be used on the menu bar. It's just doesn't look right if it's not solid white. It's not very Apple of them. And the dock just makes me want to laugh. The slanted sides just take away the clean look of the dock in Tiger. It reminds me of a cheap 3rd party app that just doesn't look good at all. Still, I'm sure all of these things will be customizable so it shouldn't really be too big of a problem as I think most of the other new features will be a welcomed change. I agree with the ugly new menu bar and dock. I think transparency should never be used on the menu bar. It’s just doesn’t look right if it’s not solid white. It’s not very Apple of them. And the dock just makes me want to laugh. The slanted sides just take away the clean look of the dock in Tiger. It reminds me of a cheap 3rd party app that just doesn’t look good at all. Still, I’m sure all of these things will be customizable so it shouldn’t really be too big of a problem as I think most of the other new features will be a welcomed change.

]]> By: Dave http://www.connerdowney.com/2007/06/12/my-thoughts-and-a-summary-of-leopard/#comment-129 Dave Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:06:08 +0000 http://www.connerdowney.com/2007/06/12/my-thoughts-and-a-summary-of-leopard/#comment-129 Conner, hate to tell you this but Apple has had a patent for "stacks" for over 10 years so that one's moot Conner, hate to tell you this but Apple has had a patent for “stacks” for over 10 years so that one’s moot

]]> By: Jordan Chark http://www.connerdowney.com/2007/06/12/my-thoughts-and-a-summary-of-leopard/#comment-128 Jordan Chark Wed, 13 Jun 2007 01:44:27 +0000 http://www.connerdowney.com/2007/06/12/my-thoughts-and-a-summary-of-leopard/#comment-128 Good analytical thinking, Conner. I'm quite frustrated with Apple doing this to independent developers. While I know it's most likely in the Apple's interest to do so, integrating the functionality by default into the OS- I think they should be more accrediting of this specifically. Not to say they haven't been with Mac developers as a whole, it's quite the opposite. On terms of Physical appearance, I'm liking the large majority of it, including Finder, as well as the dock, but I'm not digging the menubar. While much of this may very well be "useless", additional eye-candy elements greatly increase the OS's general appeal. I welcome many of Leopard's "features", though some may not be entirely innovational. Good analytical thinking, Conner. I’m quite frustrated with Apple doing this to independent developers. While I know it’s most likely in the Apple’s interest to do so, integrating the functionality by default into the OS- I think they should be more accrediting of this specifically. Not to say they haven’t been with Mac developers as a whole, it’s quite the opposite. On terms of Physical appearance, I’m liking the large majority of it, including Finder, as well as the dock, but I’m not digging the menubar. While much of this may very well be “useless”, additional eye-candy elements greatly increase the OS’s general appeal.

I welcome many of Leopard’s “features”, though some may not be entirely innovational.

]]> By: Conner http://www.connerdowney.com/2007/06/12/my-thoughts-and-a-summary-of-leopard/#comment-127 Conner Wed, 13 Jun 2007 01:42:55 +0000 http://www.connerdowney.com/2007/06/12/my-thoughts-and-a-summary-of-leopard/#comment-127 I didn't say out of jobs, but out of work. The app that they made won't get them any money, so they'll have to do something else. This would be temporary, of course, until they had another good idea. I didn’t say out of jobs, but out of work. The app that they made won’t get them any money, so they’ll have to do something else. This would be temporary, of course, until they had another good idea.

]]> By: Joe Jacobs http://www.connerdowney.com/2007/06/12/my-thoughts-and-a-summary-of-leopard/#comment-126 Joe Jacobs Wed, 13 Jun 2007 01:30:55 +0000 http://www.connerdowney.com/2007/06/12/my-thoughts-and-a-summary-of-leopard/#comment-126 I can absolutely guarentee you that the new Finder is Cocoa. The unified look alone means it is Cocoa. And I am so happy to see Aqua go. The menubar being transparent, yeah, that is just gross. And I hate how small the sidebar icons are. And I sure hope that the dock can be reverted to it's old look. Stacks, spaces, and time machine all look amazing. And stacks look better going to the right; I mean, it's more subtle than shooting straight up. Putting developers out of their jobs? I don't think so. Apple may be making similiar programs, but lets face it, Apple can integrate the programs much, much closer into the operating system. I can absolutely guarentee you that the new Finder is Cocoa. The unified look alone means it is Cocoa. And I am so happy to see Aqua go.

The menubar being transparent, yeah, that is just gross. And I hate how small the sidebar icons are. And I sure hope that the dock can be reverted to it’s old look.

Stacks, spaces, and time machine all look amazing. And stacks look better going to the right; I mean, it’s more subtle than shooting straight up.

Putting developers out of their jobs? I don’t think so. Apple may be making similiar programs, but lets face it, Apple can integrate the programs much, much closer into the operating system.

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